This orientational study evaluated the position of the temporomandibular condyles in two diagnostic mandibular positions in asymptomatic individuals by using articulator mountings and a condylar position indicator. The data were compared with the measurement points of the study "Positions of the temporomandibular condyles in three diagnostic mandibular reference positions in vivo by magnetic resonance imaging an orientational study" (Wolfsegger 2017). The following two mandibular positions were used: the unguided neuromuscular position and the bimanually guided position according to Dawson. In addition, the position of dental intercuspidation was a reference point for evaluating the extent of movement. The sample population consisted of ten men and ten women aged 23 to 37 years without temporomandibular disorder. The asymptomatic state was determined by a subjective questionnaire and a clinical examination. ^Maxillary and mandibular casts were obtained from impressions of the upper and lower teeth. The transfer to the articulator was carried out using an arbitrary face-bow. The casts were mounted in the best-fit maximum occlusion. Recordings for the unguided position (siloxane) and for the bimanual guidance (wax) were made. The condymeter was used to determine the difference between the unguided and guided position using the casts and the records. The gauges of the indicator displayed the spatial positional relationship of the right and left condyle in three dimensions. These values were compared with the results of the aforementioned study by Wolfsegger (2017), verified by ICC and plotted with a Bland-Altman diagram. The intraclass correlation coefficient yielded a large degree of concordance on the right side of the vertical and transversal axes (ICC = 0.74 or. 0.69;
**p 0.01) between the two measurement methods. ^A moderate correlation was observed in the sagittal axis (ICC = 0.46; p 0.10). For the left condyle, the inter-rater reliability in the sagittal and vertical axis gave a high degree of agreement (ICC = 0.70 or. 0.68;
**p 0.01), an insufficient correlation existed in the transversal axis (ICC = 0.31; p > 0.1). By means of the Bland-Altman plot it could be shown that in the population the deviations between the difference of both methods (MRI and Condymeter) in all right and left axes are with a 95% probability within the range of the masticatory system's tolerance and therefore no clinical relevance is proven.